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Well yesterday 7/7/2018 I finally made it to a Drag Strip to run the Beast down the 1/4 Mile. I loaded the car with some tools etc and headed out the 62 miles to Milan Dragway. I had a great ride there in the morning and saw my neighbors 69 300 convertible he sold to his brother on his way back home to Wisconsin on my way down. I was keeping an eye on my gauges and my ears open for anything out of the ordinary. No problems. When I arrived I went right to tech. They asked me a few Questions—Overflow bottle yup Battery in the trunk yup. Is it secure. Yup. Master shutoff yup. That was it he signed my card and off I went to find a parking spot. I unloaded the car and let some air out it the rear tires. I’m ready to go. I missed the first call of test n tune so I milled around the pits and ran across a friend of a friend of mine with his vette. Long story short we got the call for the 2nd round and I made a beeline for the staging lanes. It didn’t take long and I was able to make my first pass with the new driveline. The car hooked really good and I was not disappointed with the cars performance! I made my way to get my time slip and the younger guy at the shack asked me Is that a Biscayne? Yes I said, he had a look in his eye like he was a sedan fan!Then he told me my time. I don’t know who was more shocked me or him. I told him it was my first pass with the car and he was like really? The car ran 12.34 @110.26 I was ecstatic. My guess I’ve had in the back of my mind was 12.30. I have never run a Pro Tree and my reaction was .826 asleep at the wheel lol. My 2nd pass later in the day was 12.40@109.89 my reaction was a bit better .197 much better but room for improvement (more seat time)! The story gets better- on the way home on the highway at a junction of 6 lanes I’m trying to move to the right lanes as I only want to run 70. I see a Van rapidly approaching so I wait for it to pass. He pulls next to me and slows down come to find out I know him through a friend of mine. He puts his hand to his ear and I gave her a little throttle lol! I arrive home and Julie and I were talking a bit and she stops me and said someone is here. I look and it’s 2 of my buddys,one of which helped guide me through my cars transformation. We were talking and he said he had phone calls about me meeting his buddy at the track and the other seeing me on the highway lol. Damn small world ! What a great day!!! Anyway here’s some pics and a video of my 2nd run. I don’t have a first run video (operator error of my GoPro)

Thanks for tuning in,Enjoy

Larry

 

Heres a link to my 2nd run

https://youtu.be/isGSpO4BUk8



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Congrats Larry on the great times. Sounds like you had a really good day. The video was awesome, really enjoyed it.

Geof
P.S. I like the plate holder.

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Awesome!! Very impressive for an "as driven" 2 ton beast and good 60' time. Need some details, what converter are you running? Are you shifting or letting the computer do it? What RPM are you shifting and RPM across the finish line? Very well done, thanks for sharing your journey. What's next?

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Thanks Geof much appreciated. I was pleasantly surprised with how the car ran. This is the first time I have had the opportunity to really open her up. The license plate holder is a repoduction of the ones Redford Speed use to have I always wanted one and never could find one until a couple years ago. The real ones were diecast the repop one must be the race version it’s plastic.

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I’m running a Circle D converter it’s there Pro Billet 245mm (9 3/4”)3c. 3600 stall, single disc lock up.
I let the computer do the shifting i can’t really do much with it unless I switch to a manual valve body or do some trans and computer work. I still have not finished with the street/drive ability tuning. On the run in the video the trans short shifted the 1-2 upshift. My first run it did not. I have talked to my tuner about this and it will be looked at the next round of tuning. I believe the shift points are set at 6500 RPM. My tach is not functional rite now. I had it rebuilt and the people who did it set it up for a V-8 pulse width. I need to get it set up for a 4 cyl pulse width as I’m sure you know that’s what these L/S engines use. I believe that the computer can be changed to work with my tach as well so I have some options. I’m going through the traps at roughly 6000 RPM. The tires I am using are a bit taller than I originally geared the car for.
Future plans are as follows
A bit more tire pressure to see if I can get some wheel speed out of it on the launch.The car dead hooked and bogged a bit, I could hear it on my video.
I am going to experiment with a lower RPM launch to flash the converter
I will be removing the front sway bar links.
I’m thinking these will help my 60’ times and shave a bit off the ET.
A dose of nitrous is in order when I’m a little more familiar with the car and what it’s doing.
Thanks for asking I really appreciate your interest in my setup and the questions and comments.

Larry



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I agree with you letting the computer shift. It will do it much more precisely than you. When I run my Studebaker I do the same. Sounds like you are geared just about right. I do wonder if a little bit shorter tire might help, both with gear and wheel speed. The ones you have are pretty huge. Would also attract less attention for the sleeper element. Will flashing the converter be effective on a pro tree? I used to do that with my old bracket car, but with the sportsman tree you could anticipate that last yellow.

I bet with some tuning and tweaking you will be knocking on eleven's door

Thanks for letting us live vicariously through you!

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11's are a certainty
Especially with the Nitrous

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Larry, Beastcayne LIVES!!! love it. sounds like she really pulls hard up top. the word is out.look at the guest count!IMG_20180709_050349_987.jpg



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Well I have had the car back To Motor City Speed for the the last bit of driveability and trans tuning late July. Rich got it dialed in perfectly. No more surging at idle and no more short shifts at wide open throttle! The car behaves extremely well now! He also made a suggestion to pull in some outside air to help keep the maf cooler. The car rolling down the road was fine but at idle or a hot soak the inlet temp was still a bit to high. I knew when I first got the car running that what I had was going to be a temporary set up.
This is what I did - I removed the right front fender trim and slotted it,I also cut open the front of the fender behind the trim piece. I then mocked up a cold air box with cardboard and made the box with some abs plastic. I insulated the box and used some junkyard door molding to make it “airtight” and added some foam rubber to seal it to the underside of the hood and that part of it was done. I had ordered an airaid 4”diy kit and some Silicone couplers back last January so I used that to finish the system.
I plan on going back to the track late September with some shorter tires and a few other tweeks to see how it does in the cooler weather with the new tune and “ram air”’setup. I’ll keep you all “Posted”
Here’s some pics of the finished cai.
Enjoy
Larry



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Well done Larry.

Looks Detroit Factory, Wink, Wink

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Well done indeed. Great idea to use the trim piece as an intake.  That will keep big bugs and small birds out of the system too!  The cooler air will really help. When the intake air temp is high, the computer will pull timing out and hurt both power and fuel mileage. I think you will see a nice improvement.

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Thanks Guys the set up worked really well. I could feel it.
Well I have a bit of mixed news. Bad news first, October 23rd I wrecked the Beast. My fault- I was timing lights and miss judged the timing and ran a red light ,I was not able to stop in time swerved to the left to avoid a truck and hit the lady behind the right rear tire. I spun her around and knocked the right front corner off my car. I drove my car up into the right curb. I’m so glad neither one of us or anyone else was injured. Yes I had my lap and shoulder belts on. Neither one of had so much as a scratch. She was shook up pretty bad and I apologized a lot to her for MY MISTAKE! The car is totaled. I had the car towed home. I have insurance with a “cherished salvage “ policy so I would not have to “buy” the car back from the insurance company in case of a total loss ( it’s totaled)The irony of the situation is that night at work a buddy of mine found me a replacement 40 miles from me. I searched the country on Craigslist and eBay on and off for the last 3 weeks with nothing. I was looking with an open mind at a lot of options. S-10 or a 79-93 Mustang LX sedan along with another Biscayne were at the top of my list to install my L/S driveline in. Last weekend I went and looked at and drove a 68 Biscayne close by me. The owner and I were about $200 off in price. I figured well the car was running after the accident. I could fix a few things and get it mobile in a day and find a shell sometime in the future.After all I have the 66 to work on.My reasoning was I am moving next spring and could drive the car the 8 houses down to the new place and figure out what to do then. In talking to a few of my buddy’s they mentioned the negotiated price of the 68 Biscayne wasn’t bad and in added the it wasn’t worth loosing it over $200. I also figured what I had into my comparable car without the V-8 swap and what I could sell off the new one and I couldn’t pick up the phone fast enough to do the deal. The seller remembered me and I picked up the car today November 11 and drove it home. I now have a winter project lol and this one is cleaner than what I started with. Another 2 cars into one. I’ll keep you all “Posted “ as the tear down and refurbish moves along.
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I have been thinking about you ever since you told me the news on the day you had your mishap.....As I said. The car can be replaced....you cannot. As sad as we all are.....that you totaled your Biscayne.....we are much more happy that YOU are ok. It cold have been way worse.

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Sorry to hear about the car, but nobody hurt is all the really matters!!!

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Thanks guys I’m still amazed that no one was hurt! Big guy upstairs was looking out for me for sure the rest is just iron,steel and glass the car was a production piece only 1 me thank God right lol.
Thanks for the support guys it’s much appreciated.



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Oh my gosh! Very happy no one was hurt, but sad that your Beast was lost . So cool that you found a good replacement so quickly. With all your experience, the next one will be even more awesome! Looking forward to following this new adventure. Pat

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Oh no Larry! Very glad no one was hurt! Testament to you building it RIGHT with proper safety gear. Looking forward to the next 68 build and congrats on lining up a good replacement so quickly! 👍

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Larry, sorry to hear of your accident but a relief to hear everyone is OK.

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if you put your ear close to the pic of the v 2.0 pic - you can hear the whizz of spinning vanes and the whoosh of popoff valves... because I know how you are LOL

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