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Pat Dilling wrote:

I am blessed with an indulgent wife. She's not really a car person, but she will help when I need a 3rd or 4th hand, if doesn't take too long. She is an excellent brake pumper. She also comes along to cruise nights sometimes, but all day car shows not so much. I had my original Biscayne when we met and our 2nd or 3rd date was to the drag races, so she knew what she was getting into.   She has put up with me for 42+ years, I think I will keep her.






-- Edited by Pat Dilling on Tuesday 14th of July 2015 10:12:01 AM


 42+ years...I think you should certainly keep her around. biggrin

I had my '70 Chevelle when my wife and I met, but it was already disassembled. I have always had a classic around, and she has always helped out when needed, too.



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Got the correct tail light and back up light lenses off EBay, received and installed.  I was too lazy and hot to back it out and get a picture in the sun.  Getting close to time for a new walk around video too.



How they were. The Bel Air back up lenses have already been claimed by Tommy. Anybody want some Impala lenses with Blue Dots installed?



-- Edited by Pat Dilling on Friday 17th of July 2015 07:10:34 PM

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looks great with body colour wheels and the correct lenses pat smile



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Looks awesome, BIG difference. Other ones looked like bullseyes...LOL

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Great to see the progress you are making on your Biscayne! It's all the subtle details that make a Biscayne a Biscayne. She found the right home for sure.

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Great to see the progress you are making on your Biscayne! It's all the subtle details that make a Biscayne a Biscayne. She found the right home for sure.


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I posted some new video on my flickr Biscayne My Way page. Had to break it into 3 parts to get it to load. Follow the top link in my signature and then scroll to the bottom to see them.

If you have suggestions of other things to work on please speak up. One item I am planning to do it get rid of all the split loom under the hood and wrap the wiring factory style.  Also do you think I should cut an inch or so off my exhaust tips?

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-- Edited by Pat Dilling on Saturday 18th of July 2015 07:50:08 PM

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Pat,

I couldn`t help but smile throughout the entire video.....it warms my heart to see all the great improvements you are doing to the Biscayne.....LOVE IT!

I also love the SPLIT bench seat with the arm rest....I guess I never noticed that before. Also the 2doorpost.com decal ROCKS!

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Man, She looks and sounds great, Pat.

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Pat I really really like your car and you have done a great job of making it your own. Congrats mate. We all should do these walk around videos they are excellent and a fantastic way to see other members cars. Did I say I really like your car?? Thanks for sharing

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Pat, I love your Biscayne.  You are doing fantastic work.



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Well I got the new rear springs and shocks installed today. The springs are Moog 6187 OEM replacement springs, constant rate. Shocks are heavy duty KYB gas shocks to replace the Monroe air shocks. Pretty clear that the springs on there had been cut.



I did not have the rubber insulators so used a double thickness of bicycle intertube



Here's the best before side shot I have,



And after directly from the side and close up of how it sits over the tire

 

 


I measured Ride Height using the Service Manual method and spec before hand. It calls for 6 9/16" +- 3/8" from the top of the axle tube to the underside of the frame. That's with a full tank and spare in the trunk. Before measurement was 4 1/4" on the right and 4 1/2" on the left. Afterwards it is 6 1/2" on the right and 7" on the left. That is within specs. The new springs raised it 2 1/4 on the right and 2 1/2" on the left. My initial impression is the stance is a little high in the back. but I will drive it some and see if time and miles brings it down some. I have only driven it about 5 miles since the install. The previous owner told me it has dropped spindles in the front, but he told me some other things that were not exactly accurate so not sure. What do you think about the stance now??



-- Edited by Pat Dilling on Thursday 23rd of July 2015 05:51:23 PM

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Pat I have to say I preferred the lower stance and my personal opinion is its a bit to high in the rear. Car sure looks good though.

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image.jpgPat Dilling wrote:

Well I got the new rear springs and shocks installed today. The springs are Moog 6187 OEM replacement springs, constant rate. Shocks are heavy duty KYB gas shocks to replace the Monroe air shocks. Pretty clear that the springs on there had been cut.



I did not have the rubber insulators so used a double thickness of bicycle intertube



Here's the best before side shot I have,



And after directly from the side and close up of how it sits over the tire

 

 


I measured Ride Height using the Service Manual method and spec before hand. It calls for 6 9/16" +- 3/8" from the top of the axle tube to the underside of the frame. That's with a full tank and spare in the trunk. Before measurement was 4 1/4" on the right and 4 1/2" on the left. Afterwards it is 6 1/2" on the right and 7" on the left. That is within specs. The new springs raised it 2 1/4 on the right and 2 1/2" on the left. My initial impression is the stance is a little high in the back. but I will drive it some and see if time and miles brings it down some. I have only driven it about 5 miles since the install. The previous owner told me it has dropped spindles in the front, but he told me some other things that were not exactly accurate so not sure. What do you think about the stance now??



-- Edited by Pat Dilling on Thursday 23rd of July 2015 05:51:23 PM


 Pat your car sits about how my 68 Biscayne is.  Mine is all Stock from the factory  my car is little high for my personal taste.  You and i have the same size wheels and tires on the front  15x7rim with  215/70-15. I have not measured the tire height of my front tires. My back tires are 27" tall on 15x10" wheels.   These 68's are kinda weird as at some angles the front looks a bit higher to me than the rear, at other angles the rear looks higher. It does not appear to me  that you have dropped spindles. Your car looks good!!! and im sure it rides much better with the new springs and shocks on it.   I personally like a lowred stance  with some rake to it. A little lower in the front and if i can a bit shorter tire to keep the proportions rite just my 2 cents   



-- Edited by Spike on Thursday 23rd of July 2015 07:12:21 PM

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Spike, thanks for the pictures of your original car, that gives me a great point of reference. I am going to pull a front wheel today to measure and take a look at my spindles. I plan to leave it as is for a while and decide if I like it, or if I want to cut a coil off. A spring guru calculated for me that one coil would lower it about .8 of an inch. For reference compared to Spike's rear tires, mine are 28" tall.  Also for reference here is a picture of my old 68 that had stock springs as far as I recall.  IN this picture it has 10 x 28-15 slicks on it and the front tires were 8.25-14.  It looks pretty level.  Thanks all for your input and comments.

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Glad to help when I can Pat.. I have never seen that pic you posted of your old car. I have seen 2 others of it from the front on the starting line. I found them when I was looking online for my car. How cool you had an actual L-72 Car biggrin. Glad you got the one you have now too.  I figured 1 coil is close to 1" as well. If you decide to change the front springs. Eaton spring will make you lowered springs up to 2" lower than stock with the same spring rate. They have been an O.E. Supplier for a long long time. I have used them in the past with some really oddball combination's  ( 49 caddy nova sub-frame 6-71 blown 396). They had a very fast turn around and worked great! 

 



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Thanks for the tip on the Eaton springs. That Caddy must have been something!

Quite a few of the things I am doing on the car would not necessarily be noticed by a first time observer. But if I had not done them they would be noticeable. Kind of like having finger prints on your glass, you don't notice that it is clean, but it really sticks out if it's not. Today I worked on engine compartment wiring. Much had been wrapped in plastic or nylon split loom which did not exist in the 60s and 70s. I removed all the split loom and was happy to find most of the wiring wrapped in OEM style wiring tape (not electrical tape) under the split loom. I only had to clean it up and fill in the places where the wire wrap was missing. Engine compartment will never be exactly original, but it is closer now than it was.

The car is very close to ready for Hot August Nights.

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I have felt a vibration when rolling down the road, so on a whim I pulled the drive shaft out and took it to the local drive line shop for a true up and balancing. They also changed the front U-joint. So $150 later the car is, as Rob Thomas sang with Santana, (www.youtube.com/watch) So Smooth!

That's the good news, I have been chasing an oil leak for a while, I thought it was because I over filled the transmission. But now the trans is filled to the right level and I am still getting oil out of the front of the trans. It shows up dripping out of the front of the bell housing and being slung onto the starter and header by the ring gear. It only shows up after I have been driving the car and it is quite a bit of oil. The back of the flywheel is clean. It has to be coming out around the transmission input shaft. When I had everything out I checked to make sure the oil slinger was installed correctly and that the drain hole back into the trans was not plugged, and all the seals were good. It is not coming around the counter shaft. So I guess it is time for a rebuild before I ruin the clutch. The transmission(a 1970 M20) works just fine though it does whine going through the gears. If any of you gurus has a suggestion I'd love to hear it.

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Pat, I checked out all your photos on flickr, you have done a great job on the car. I really like the color. I think the stance on your car is great, sits just right. I have the Eaton springs for my Biscayne, they are a good company to deal with. Is that a 3 or 4 core rad in your car. I have a 3 core harrison rad to go back in my Belair, not sure whether that will cool the 427 or not. Thanks Geof

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